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Wifi Ubers回归之战

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十周年纪念

发表于 2012-11-18 10:01:05 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Battle between [本人ID已屏蔽]and [Phoenix]Tier started!

Tier: Wifi Ubers
Mode: Singles
Variation: +23, -9
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

Your team: Kyogre / Mewtwo / Arceus / Azelf / Ferrothorn / Manaphy
Opponent's team: Groudon / Ho-Oh / Kyurem-W / Palkia / Espeon / Lugia

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[Phoenix]Tier: Kyogre / Mewtwo / Arceus / Azelf / Ferrothorn / Manaphy
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Azelf!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Espeon!

Start of turn 1
[Phoenix]Tier called Espeon back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Ho-Oh!

Azelf used U-turn!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
The foe's Ho-Oh lost 11% of its health!
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Azelf back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Kyogre!

Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 2
[Phoenix]Tier called Ho-Oh back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Palkia!

The foe's Palkia is exerting its Pressure!
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Kyogre back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Ferrothorn!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 3
[Phoenix]Tier called Palkia back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Espeon!

Ferrothorn used Toxic!
The attack of Ferrothorn missed!
Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 4
[Phoenix]Tier called Espeon back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Ho-Oh!

Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Ho-Oh lost 18% of its health!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 5
The foe's Ho-Oh used Brave Bird!
Ferrothorn lost 195 HP! (67% of its health)
The foe's Ho-Oh is hit with recoil!
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Ho-Oh
The foe's Ho-Oh is hurt by its Life Orb!

Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Ho-Oh was seeded!

Rain continues to fall!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Ho-Oh's health is sapped by leech seed.
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Start of turn 6
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!

The foe's Ho-Oh used Roost!
The foe's Ho-Oh landed on the ground!
The foe's Ho-Oh regained health!

Rain continues to fall!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Ho-Oh's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 7
The foe's Ho-Oh used Sacred Fire!
It's super effective!
Ferrothorn lost 218 HP! (75% of its health)
Ferrothorn fainted!
The foe's Ho-Oh is hurt by its Life Orb!

Rain continues to fall!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Manaphy!

terrakillion: bb

Start of turn 8
[Phoenix]Tier called Ho-Oh back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Palkia!
[Phoenix]Tier: k

The foe's Palkia is exerting its Pressure!
Manaphy used Tail Glow!
Manaphy's Sp. Att. drastically rose!

Rain continues to fall!
terrakillion: .

Start of turn 9
The foe's Palkia used Thunder!
It's super effective!
Manaphy lost 294 HP! (86% of its health)

Manaphy used Grass Knot!
The foe's Palkia lost 80% of its health!

Rain continues to fall!
Manaphy restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Manaphy back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Arceus!

The foe's Palkia used Thunder!
Arceus lost 132 HP! (29% of its health)

Rain continues to fall!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
[Phoenix]Tier called Palkia back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Groudon!

the foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Arceus used Swords Dance!
Arceus's Attack sharply rose!

The sunlight is strong!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
[Phoenix]Tier called Groudon back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Lugia!

Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Lugia lost 26% of its health!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Lugia lost 50% of its health!

The foe's Lugia used Whirlwind!
Kyogre was dragged out!
Kyogre's Drizzle made it rain!

Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
[Phoenix]Tier called Lugia back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Espeon!

Kyogre used Surf!
The foe's Espeon hung on using its Focus Sash!
The foe's Espeon lost 99% of its health!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 15
The foe's Espeon used Grass Knot!
It's super effective!
Kyogre lost 226 HP! (56% of its health)

Kyogre used Calm Mind!
Kyogre's Sp. Att. rose!
Kyogre's Sp. Def. rose!

Rain continues to fall!
Kyogre restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 16
The foe's Espeon used Psyshock!
Kyogre lost 163 HP! (40% of its health)

Kyogre used Surf!
The foe's Espeon lost 0% of its health!
The foe's Espeon fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
Kyogre restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Palkia!

The foe's Palkia is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 17
The foe's Palkia used Hydro Pump!
It's not very effective...
Kyogre lost 64 HP! (15% of its health)
Kyogre fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Arceus!

Start of turn 18
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Palkia lost 19% of its health!
The foe's Palkia fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Lugia!

Start of turn 19
The foe's Lugia used Roost!
The foe's Lugia landed on the ground!
The foe's Lugia regained health!

Arceus used Swords Dance!
Arceus's Attack sharply rose!

Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 20
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Lugia lost 51% of its health!

The foe's Lugia used Roost!
The foe's Lugia landed on the ground!
The foe's Lugia regained health!

Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 21
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Arceus back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Azelf!

The foe's Lugia used Roost!
The foe's Lugia landed on the ground!
The foe's Lugia regained health!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 22
Azelf used Taunt!
The foe's Lugia fell for the taunt!

The foe's Lugia can't use Thunder Wave after the taunt!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 23
[Phoenix]Tier called Lugia back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Ho-Oh!

Azelf used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around [Phoenix]Tier's team!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 24
Azelf used U-turn!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Ho-Oh lost 6% of its health!
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Azelf back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Manaphy!

The foe's Ho-Oh used Flame Charge!
It's not very effective...
Manaphy lost 27 HP! (7% of its health)
The foe's Ho-Oh's Speed rose!
The foe's Ho-Oh is hurt by its Life Orb!

Rain continues to fall!
Manaphy restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 25
The foe's Ho-Oh used Brave Bird!
Manaphy lost 62 HP! (18% of its health)
Manaphy fainted!
The foe's Ho-Oh is hit with recoil!
The foe's Ho-Oh is hurt by its Life Orb!

Rain continues to fall!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Arceus!

Start of turn 26
The foe's Ho-Oh used Brave Bird!
Arceus lost 238 HP! (53% of its health)
The foe's Ho-Oh is hit with recoil!
The foe's Ho-Oh is hurt by its Life Orb!

Arceus used Swords Dance!
Arceus's Attack sharply rose!

Rain continues to fall!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 27
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Ho-Oh lost 25% of its health!
The foe's Ho-Oh fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Groudon!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Groudon!

the foe's Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays!

Start of turn 28
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Groudon lost 68% of its health!

The foe's Groudon used Earthquake!
Arceus lost 220 HP! (49% of its health)
The foe's Groudon is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 29
Arceus used ExtremeSpeed!
The foe's Groudon lost 15% of its health!
The foe's Groudon fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Lugia!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Lugia!

Start of turn 30
The foe's Lugia used Roost!
The foe's Lugia landed on the ground!
The foe's Lugia regained health!

Arceus used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Lugia lost 17% of its health!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 31
The foe's Lugia used Roost!
The foe's Lugia landed on the ground!
The foe's Lugia regained health!

Arceus used Swords Dance!
Arceus's Attack sharply rose!
Manhattan is watching the battle.

The sunlight is strong!
Arceus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Manhattan stopped watching the battle.

Start of turn 32
Arceus used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Lugia lost 24% of its health!

The foe's Lugia used Whirlwind!
Azelf was dragged out!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 33
[Phoenix]Tier called Lugia back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Kyurem-W!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Kyurem-W!

The foe's Kyurem-W has Turboblaze!
Azelf used Taunt!
The foe's Kyurem-W fell for the taunt!
The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 34
Azelf used U-turn!
The foe's Kyurem-W lost 20% of its health!
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Azelf back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Arceus!

The foe's Kyurem-W used Fusion Flare!
Arceus lost 145 HP! (32% of its health)
Arceus fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Mewtwo!

Mewtwo is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 35
[本人ID已屏蔽]called Mewtwo back!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Azelf!

[Phoenix]Tier called Kyurem-W back!
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Lugia!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Lugia!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Lugia restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 36
[Phoenix]Tier called Lugia back!
waluigijoe is watching the battle.
[Phoenix]Tier sent out Kyurem-W!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Kyurem-W!

The foe's Kyurem-W has Turboblaze!
Azelf used Taunt!
The foe's Kyurem-W fell for the taunt!
The sunlight is strong!

waluigijoe stopped watching the battle.
FX is watching the battle.

Start of turn 37
Azelf used Explosion!
Azelf fainted!
The foe's Kyurem-W lost 29% of its health!
The foe's Kyurem-W fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
[本人ID已屏蔽]sent out Mewtwo!

[Phoenix]Tier sent out Lugia!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Lugia!

Mewtwo is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 38
Mewtwo used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
The foe's Lugia lost 38% of its health!
The foe's Lugia fainted!

[本人ID已屏蔽]won the battle!
[Phoenix]Tier: ...

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发表于 2012-11-18 10:47:18 | 显示全部楼层
姑且不说阿尔宙斯放弃报恩是何心态了,明知道超梦可以压对方近一队确迟迟不出,也知道对面先制技匮乏,不多多利用三个高速PM压制对方,结果差点被硝基冲锋的凤王给打压了。

我真无法明白,面对对手这种速度种族最高110的队伍,你一个队伍中三个超过他整队都能这么虚。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-18 11:01:56 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 使用说明书 于 2012-11-18 12:41 编辑

首先超神兽的速度只分配到277,而物攻极限注重耐久,因此选择先制的神速。事实上我尚未见到报恩的超神兽。超梦是胆小性格,即便带了达人腰带攻击力还是有限,一发冰光往往只能达到古拉顿的约90%HP,甚至有过一发波导弹无法击倒满HP的白冰龙的经历。多鳞洛神也不宜强攻。而对方的队伍显然惧怕岩钉,因此击倒光布后选择先撒钉。其实也正是因为有岩钉,对方的命玉凤王才无法施展开。
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发表于 2012-11-18 11:53:57 来自手机用户 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Memento 于 2012-11-18 12:19 编辑

觉得楼主总体上不能说打得不好,可以说比较稳健,但是有些PM思路上还是有问题

其实我看到千手大婶所谓极限物攻然后剩下努力平分两防的分法就极度想吐槽,现在把速度拉到280根本还是一个思路

诚然和90相关是Uber里最为重要的几条速度线,但280卡的是90满速的279,这是相对冷门的速度线口牙,老外特别喜欢用的专眼海皇牙基本上必定极速,少数堆耐久的基本都是零速,同理,满速固拉顿也很少,经管可能稍微多那么一点点,但这么分配基本上都有岩切,其他那一大票零速的很多,极速的也很多,满速的实在是少之又少

退一步讲,有一天大家突然都调成了满速,除了时间神,剩下的打下去最大威力为本系神速= =这点速度压制还有意义么?

我觉得720速度至少给加过100极速线吧,要不然直接满速或者极速多省事,
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-18 12:39:08 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 使用说明书 于 2012-11-18 12:41 编辑


手误,其实是277,也就是4点速度努力。
事实上围巾喷水略多于眼镜喷水。此外超神兽努力平分两防已改为加HP。
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发表于 2012-11-18 13:11:50 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 小小的诺 于 2012-11-18 13:22 编辑

使用率不代表强度,阿尔宙斯没人用报恩只能说明水平差的人多罢了,并不能说明没强度,试想一个阿尔宙斯可以被耿鬼的同归带走是多可笑的事。而且就算用了神速,为什么不加速度呢?为什么不同时配报恩呢?

你的配招问题是小,而操作问题才是更大,从来就不去思考对面的队伍,也没有思考对面会交换什么,从你操作来看,你的行为全部是顺其自然,看对面怎么办你再决定如何,连超梦压对面一整队的细节都没有看出来。

希望你能够正面认识到自己的问题,因为在2楼我已经说过了这样的话,结果被你选择性的无视了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-18 13:33:08 | 显示全部楼层
的确,我在对战中有时过于急躁,尤其是大局观欠缺,此战中直到第35回合才真正以先读对方交换而选择交换。我也在努力增进水平,力求在对战中更多地控制节奏。然而,“超梦压对方一队”的说话似乎言过其实。一发无法击倒踩了一次岩钉的古拉顿或较高HP的凤王,帕鲁基亚是否带围巾尚未知晓,多鳞洛神的耐久配合电磁波更是大患。对方的队伍显然惧怕岩钉,因此在击倒光布后选择先撒钉。正是因为有岩钉,对方的洛神和凤王才会陷入被动。
扬长避短者即普通,不胆小不贪心,不找事不怕事,挖掘潜力,放弃弱小,实力日趋渐涨;以长击短者即高手,认清强弱和价值,发挥本队最强实力,临场操作变幻莫测,集中火力攻击对方软肋,实力提升只需一战。
像我这样求稳的玩家总会遭到“高手”的鄙视,然而我没有炼狱光粉喷火龙的RP,以短击长无异于以卵击石。
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发表于 2012-11-18 13:34:19 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 小小的诺 于 2012-11-18 13:35 编辑

求稳和缩是两码事

在你对超梦的疑虑上,可以看出,你根本没有把对手放眼里。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-18 13:48:12 | 显示全部楼层
如果不是“+23,-9”而是“+9,-23”,我或许会更早派出超梦。
OU中,蓝水都的龙星群经历了一百余战而命中率不如龙之冲锋,我怎能不选择放弃?四百余战中被麻痹有50%的几率无法行动,我怎能不多加提防?
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发表于 2012-11-18 13:52:59 | 显示全部楼层
wifi对战开始队伍是公开的,你连对手的队伍都记不住这叫求稳?说到底你只是在按步就班,对手怎么交换你也怎么交换,你的步调全部是被对手牵制着走的。

操作如果根据对手分数而定的话,那么你得轻敌现象非常严重,同时这也是你缩而不稳的另一个原因。

结合两点原因,你认为对手分数比你高,所以为了稳而操作谨慎。实际上对手实力很差,只是分数高一点而已,你能胜也是因为对手的队伍速度不高,而且操作不好罢了,全盘你和你对手的操作均无一处亮点可言。
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